Spot the differences!

Wayne Harris kept a notebook on Eric around the time the family was struggling with keeping his behaviour in line. I was reading through it the other day and then went “I know that level of chickenscratch”.. called up Eric’s journal and, well, it’s almost like Wayne’s handwriting is the more mature version of his son’s! Some letters, like the “t”, are virtually identical and so is the cramped tiny form of it. They also both struggle with spelling: I’ve seen Wayne misspell on occasion, just like his son was lax in the spelling department. (”Choosses”.. Eric, really? Ugh..) Thought it was an interesting similarity between father and son here.

[“aesthetic” + Reb]:
man can eat, drink, fuck, and hunt.. and everything else he does is madness.

For a bunch of people supposedly so paranoid about Eric and Dylan inspiring copycats, they do a surprising job of letting unredacted information about the explosive devices that were used in the massacre slip through the mazes of the evidence web. There are more instances like these to be found in official reports and the evidence documents themselves, which could suffice as at least half of an instruction manual if you put all this information together and possess a bit of scientific knowledge.

*forever calls absolute bullshit on the basement tapes not being released because they are a supposed instruction manual for future bombers/shooters*

Did dylan really laugh during the shootings?? What about eric? Irrelevant. Oppinion on lyn ann?

Mhm, he certainly did. Dylan was laughing and yellin’ up a storm in the library. It’s him that you see appear on the 911 call transcripts more – he was the louder presence of the two in there, calling out to Eric and commenting at witnesses as he went. I believe Brooks commented on Dylan sounding “happy” on the recording of that call, too, so his elation was very noticeable. Eric was quieter throughout and though he confronted witnesses he also struggled with the injury to his nose. Some say that he seemed a little “out of it”, which corresponds with Eric barely reacting as Dylan essentially offers him Evan Todd’s life on a silver platter.

Survivors say that both Eric and Dylan were laughing and sounded cheerful as they went along shooting people. Multiple accounts have them both reacting with glee to what they’re inflicting on people. Reading the library witnesses accounts is harrowing not just because of what these people experienced, but also because it shows the callousness and joy with which Eric and Dylan acted on that day. I cannot imagine the trauma of seeing someone get shot through the head right in front of you and then hearing the gunman laugh about it. It’s psychological warfare that those two waged more than anything else..

My opinion on Lynn Ann is that she seems to be one of those people who is just completely and utterly detached from reality, common sense, and empathy. The way that she has spoken about the victims and survivors in such derogatory and insulting terms makes me want to kick her in the teeth. Utterly vile. What gets to me the most about her isn’t so much that she expresses that, but rather the fact that she’s got people supporting and feeding her delusion that Eric’s a poor precious little boy and that the victims and survivors deserved what they got. I will never stand for that. None of them deserved to go through that. None of them deserved to lose their life. Nobody deserved to lose their loved one. It kills me that there are people out there who believe otherwise.

Hi! Do u think eric and dylan had sufficient grades to grafuate if they didnt pursue NBK? THANKS:))

I think they did, though not a lot is known about Dylan’s grades in comparison to Eric’s. The fact that Dylan was talking about post-graduation plans and had already been to a university of his choice on a visit says a lot about his graduation prospects, though, in my opinion. =)

We see Eric score A/B grades throughout high school, which he pretty much maintained until NBK, and I think he pushed himself on that as much as he was pushed to score good grades by his parents. He had a GPA of 3.583 and was ranked 106 out of 469 back in 1997, so it’s quite likely that he maintained that very decent score throughout.

We don’t have the same luxury of report cards for Dylan, but the diversion documents give an okay overview. He is said to score anywhere between As and Ds during his junior year, though he himself circles Bs and Cs the most, but keep in mind that he took mostly honors classes as regular classes were not challenging enough for him. I have the impression he would scrape by in some classes but score really well in others, which would even out his average enough for him to be able to graduate without issue.

I knew dylan had his halycon to look forward to but what about eric? I dont think he knew what to expect after death..what are ur thoughts on religion? Do u think god could forgive them? Who was mkre afraid eric ir dyl? I think eric but not sure.

I don’t really think Eric knew what to expect after death, either. He hoped it would be similar to a dream-like state, which isn’t so surprising considering the fact that he had pretty vivid and detailed dreams he enjoyed. I think that he also contemplated total oblivion after death: there just being nothing and him not living on is something I think he entertained in his mind as well. The whole thing about death is that none of us really know what to expect, though some of us have more than a fair hunch about it, and I think that we initially get the afterlife view that we expect to see the most. Kind of like this.. midway station between your expectance and reality. You help create your own space, as it were.

My thoughts on religion are complicated as all hell, lol. I grew up in organised religion (Roman Catholic) and am now going my own way (eclectic paganism), but it’s also a major interest of mine in general and I could go on about it for hours if someone lets me. I think that we may not share the same godview here, but I’m going to try and explain what I believe. I believe that there is one creator/destructor neutral force that is inside everything in this universe and extends beyond this universe simultaneously. God is both creator and creation at the same time. Forgiveness in this case would not be as simple as creator forgiving creation: they are one and the same, in different forms, and so it essentially becomes about a forgiveness of the Self instead. Eric and Dylan would need to be able to forgive themselves in order to allow themselves to experience the transcendence of universal forgiveness.

Who was more afraid of death, do you mean? Or do you mean a more general sense of fear? In case of death.. Dylan was checking in with himself and questioning whether he was afraid of it. I believe Eric feared saying goodbye more than he feared death itself. They were both quite fear-based as individuals. Eric’s big mouth and Dylan’s easygoing nature may obscure that from view, but they both had fear responses like whoa to certain things and especially to certain feelings. Dylan responded with embarrassment, while Eric responded with anger.

So i hear dylan showed his parents his flask when he got home from after prom..were they ok w him drinking? Whyd dyl show them the flask? And do u think he had severe social anxiety? I do. Big time. And also do u think he was a follower?

I was actually going “bwuh? flask? which flask?” over here for a little while, because the last flask-related shenanigans I’ve seen in terms of Columbine all came from Eric. Thankfully, I have @everlasting-contrast to set me straight when I’m going “bwuh?” over Dylan-related tidbits and so I thankfully caught this recent post from her on the subject of the flask. I have the impression that Sue and Tom may have been okay with him drinking in extreme moderation on something as huge as final prom night. Showing them the flask is like a sign of trust between them (“look, I didn’t drink the whole thing!”) and I think it was something they really discussed with Dylan beforehand. I’m personally a firm advocate of letting your kids get acquainted with something like alcohol in a safe and controlled environment, as are my parents, and this sounds like the kind of agreement I’d have in my family too. (I had my first drink here at home rather than in some shady bar, which did help me learn how much I can drink before I get woozy. Having a drink on prom night sounds like something my folks would’ve tolerated no problem, too.)

I think that there are definite signs that Dylan suffered from a level of social anxiety, yeah. I used to have that really badly myself, so some of the things he says and such are pretty recognisable to me. It’s that constant worry of not being liked, not being good/pretty/smart/something enough, and of doing/saying something that you think is so awkward that you wish you could sink into the floor and die. (It doesn’t matter if reality agrees with you or not, because your anxiety’s just gonna shout “you fucked up again wonderful let’s kill ourselves!” anyway.) I think Dylan suffered a lot from that perceived embarrassment and I think that he fretted endlessly over what to say to a girl he liked or to a stranger he didn’t know very well. It was different around friends like Eric and Zach, because he knew them and he knew they wouldn’t be dicks about it if he put his foot in it.

I don’t think he was a follower. I think that Dylan comes across that way simply because he couldn’t be arsed to assert his dominance in a situation all the time. Dylan picked his battles, but he marched firmly to the beat of his own drum. I think the whole follower-schtick just landed out there because they needed a crutch for the “Eric Harris is an evil demon overlord”-thing they’ve got going and Dylan not being a follower would undermine that theory gigantically, lol.

Dylan klebolds foot fetish ;) your oppinion on it?

Well, it’s in his journal as an admission (“my humanity has a foot fetish & bondage extreme liking”) so we can’t close our eyes and pretend it doesn’t exist. He doesn’t offer many more details, nor does he fantasize ‘out loud’ the way Eric does in one of his entries. Dylan sounds uncomfortable in the entry that surrounds it – he’s not happy with himself about it and even states that he tries to thwart himself from getting into it. I think it was something he felt really ambivalent about. It was something that attracted him enough for him to watch semi-regularly (I assume), but it was also something that gave him conflicted feelings.

Now, the conflicted feelings can have two causes: The Girl and what is considered to be “normal” in terms of sexuality/attraction. In the case of The Girl, it’s that Dylan wants to keep his thoughts about her pure and loving instead of engaging in thoughts of animalistic physicality. The kind of porn he watched sounds like it could edge quite a bit to the extreme – not the virginal pure love he covets during the remainder of his journal. But then there’s also the fact that Dylan was surrounded by this hypermasculine dominant atmosphere. It’s expected of guys to be “the man” and dominate over women in that kind of worldview. (You can see the same happen with Eric, who speaks of dominance but edges toward subservience when you really take a good look at his expression.) And if Dylan had this foot fetish that is usually quite a submissive thing to enjoy, it may be the case that he felt awkward about it simply because it did not fit in with the hyperdominant masculinity that was expected of him.

It’s kind of like “what’s wrong with me?”, almost, that he wonders about himself. The fetish in itself is nothing to be ashamed of (hey, to each their own) but when it doesn’t jive with what you’ve been taught you should like.. that’s when it gets more complicated. Especially in your teenage years, which are totally focused on discovering your own identity and “fitting in” at the same time. It’s a confusing and hormonal time and so I don’t think Dylan was comfortable enough with the expression of his sexuality yet. It straightens out over the years as you get more experience and grow more confident inside of yourself, so there’s a big chance that he may have eventually expressed that submissive-ish desire more in his future.

Hey:) you give such amazing, thought provoking replies. Thank you for that! Who do you think was more anxious about nbk? Do you think that they got any sleep the night before? And why do u think kathy/(whats erics dads name?) Keep so closed off?

Hi! Thank you for the compliment, I’m happy to hear you enjoy them.

I think that they were both quite anxious about NBK, though maybe not in the same way. It’s honestly the kind of thing to get nervous about: not only do you know that you’ll be engaging in a bombing/shooting as a perpetrator, but you also know that you won’t live to see the next morning. You’re essentially praying none of your big plans are gonna fuck themselves over while simultaneously saying goodbye to everything you knew. I think there’s always a pit of anxiety attached to that notion. I have the impression that Eric struggled far more with the goodbye, as I also have the impression that Dylan didn’t quite catch up with the reality of murder until he was actively living it. The anxiety comes from not knowing what to expect.

I don’t think they got much sleep the night before, no. Zach Heckler said that Dylan got off the phone really early the night before. This was supposedly because he was “tired and going to go to sleep”, but more likely because he didn’t want to speak with Zach for a long time and give something away through the conversation. Eric recorded the so-called “Nixon tape” that night, too, so we know he was up and running. I have the impression that they were up half the night and probably didn’t get any sleep in. They may not have even tried to get some.

It is my impression that Kathy and Wayne keep very closed off for quite a few reasons, though a lot of them are guesswork on my end based off the impression they give. I will say that the fact that they had not lived in Littleton from the start may have made life more difficult for them than it was for the Klebolds (who’d lived there for as long as Dylan had been alive): the Harrises were the “foreign entity” people didn’t always know that well. Their behaviour post-massacre is different, too, as can be seen in the evidence. The Klebolds spoke with investigators, while the Harrises refused to speak and closed ranks. The Klebolds wrote sympathy cards directly to the families, while the Harrises went through a third party and never had their cards arrive. The Klebolds let investigators search their property, while the Harrises attempted to stop investigators from going down to Eric’s room. It is my firm belief that the Harrises knew exactly what investigators were going to find – and not only that, but there was a chance that Eric would have thrown them under the bus entirely by putting the blame squarely on them. (He didn’t: he tried to do the opposite and spoke of absolving them. Eric had a fierce, fierce loyalty to his family that was at least partially based off fear. It shows between the lines of what he did and said, and my heart truly goes out to him for it.)

There is a dynamic in the Harris family that can be best explained as “sweep it under the rug and never show strangers what’s underneath it”. Wayne already attempted to damage control his son while Eric was still alive, as can be seen in the notebook he kept about Eric. There is a rigidness to the family that’s confirmed by several statements and actions, which Eric struggled intensely with while he was alive. The way they closed ranks on investigators is also the way they closed ranks on everyone trying to pry into their lives in an attempt to get to know “the black sheep of the family”. I believe the Mausers stated that the Harrises gave the impression that they (or at least Wayne) bought into the view of Eric that’s out there. Eric’s seen as more responsible than Dylan, but.. more importantly.. he is also seen as the one who couldn’t have been saved. If his parents indeed absorbed that view of him, it is my belief that they did so because it absolves them of any responsibility for the actions and behaviour of their youngest son. I believe they love him as many parents love their children, but I also believe that they choose to see the worst in him because they cannot face up to the worst of themselves.

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Didnt Dave Cunthead (oppsy) Cullen* try to/ask to veiw the basment tapes for his sorry excuse of a book. ? Thanks!

*snorts* I think he sure as hell did, but I believe law enforcement was disenchanted with his reporting on the case and so he wasn’t invited for the grand showing. =P Keep in mind that Dave started his glorious career of shitty Columbine stories back in the days when it happened and that he was one of the press vultures descending on the case, so that would’ve soured JeffCo and company (whose relationship with the press was.. ahem.. questionable..) against him enough to bar him from viewing them. I’m honestly glad he never got the chance, because Dave isn’t as unbiased as some credible journalists who were allowed to see them.

If Dave had seen the tapes, he would never have shut up about it in his book. Instead, he’s forced to defer to the expertise (HA! hahahaha!) of FBI agent Dwayne Fuselier. Dave’s quite arrogant about it, too, proclaiming that only Fuselier’s trained eye understood the nuances in those tapes that clearly showed Eric was the psychopathic leader of the two and that reporters and others bought into a lie when they stated that Eric was contrite and Dylan was monstrous. Because, well, you apparently need a degree and a great dose of complete ignorance to arrive at the wrong conclusion and state it as fact despite the notion that everyone else who’s seen those tapes agrees that the dynamic between the two is very different from that.

Hey thanks for actually answering anons, unlike some people. I have a question:) do u know if dylan actually got anything to eat at burgerking the day before 4/20? Also who was he w? One more things what are their zodiac signs/bdays?Thank you so much

Hi, that’s no problem! My blog doesn’t get as much asks as some other blogs do, so it’s far easier for me to keep up with those. I’ve always had the option for people to go on anon because I know many feel more comfortable with it and I haven’t experienced any major drama with that, so I guess that helps too! Maybe other blogs have different experiences and a full inbox to get to, who knows? 😉 But anyway, I’m always happy to answer questions!

Dylan didn’t get anything to eat during the Breakfast Run video, no. I believe you can hear a “I’m not getting anything” from him somewhere in that vid. He was sitting next to Dustin Gorton (the driver, born on 11/14/1980) and the backseat was occupied by Eric Jackson (born on 09/26/1980). I believe it’s Jackson who makes the comment on getting some cini-minis. Dustin Gorton reported to police that Eric Harris was in the backseat, but the minute you listen to the video closely you’ll realise that it’s likely that Eric wasn’t there at all: his accent and voice would’ve been a dead giveaway, because it stands out from the other guys in the other videos we have of them. Eric Jackson confirms in his statement that he was present for the filming and he even had the tape of it in his backpack on 4/20.

I gave you the birthdays of Gorton and Jackson for full measure, but Eric’s birthday is on 04/09/1981 (making him an Aries) and Dylan’s is on 09/11/1981 (making him a Virgo). ^^

Interesting little tidbit from the evidence files of doom: this particular JeffCo officer noted that several bombs were attached to one of the suspects. Eric or Dylan? I would say: place your bets! (Feel free to use this post as additional reference as to how they were found in the library, which might lead to more of a clue..)

What do you think Eric and Dylan would think of extreme fan girls who are 100% devoted and obsessed with them? Flattered, creeped out or somewhere in the middle.

Constantly shifting between extremely flattered and extremely creeped out. Eric might be a little more flattered and smiley-faced about it than Dylan, but I have the impression that neither one of them really knew how to deal with girls and it would be a shock to the system for both to find someone devoted to/obsessed with them. I can see Dylan go “I’m not that big a deal” and I can see Eric finally come down from that major egoboost long enough to go “I ain’t worth all that”, too – they didn’t see themselves as deserving of (that kind of) affection.

I kinda think it’d get on their last nerve real quick, though. There’s only so much blind love you can tolerate before you go “shut up, you give me the heebie-jeebies”.

I have the feeling that, sometimes, when reading through Columbine blogs, even some of them are a little bit rude towards Eric and there’s always a sweet excuse for Dylan. I don’t know, but it sounds a little hypocritical to me.

Different strokes for different folks, right? Some people go for tiny pissy Rebby, other people go for tall-as-fuck romantic V. Some of us (me!) go for both in near-equal measure and try to make that work. You can usually spot someone’s preferred leaning quite easily in the way they talk about the case. I don’t think it’s hypocritical for a V-blogger to be turned off when Eric’s yakking on and on about destroying shit, nor do I think it’s hypocritical for a Rebby-blogger to eyeroll and go “seriously?” over Dylan’s lamentations. It’s personal preference. You can’t really fault people over that, in my opinion.

I personally try to stay level about them. Doesn’t always work, though. I give Eric a lot of shit on here in the moments where he seriously inspires my inner serial killer, but the minute Dave Cullen and his clan of monkeys arrive I become Eric’s biggest defender and am willing to fight anyone tooth and nail about him. I recognise my younger self in Dylan and feel a degree of kinship with him, but I will seriously confess to going “please stoppp” at all the romantic shit in his journal because I ain’t here for that. I’m not in the habit of making excuses for either one, because.. well.. they’re both mass-murdering fuckheads at the end of the day, despite their differences in personality.

It’s that difference in personality that I think inspires the excuses for Dylan and the rudeness toward Eric: Dylan comes off as the more likeable, seems the easier to get along with, and held onto more friends than Eric ever did. Eric did his best to make himself very unlikeable (come on, you haven’t lived until you’ve gone “what the fuck dude” at Eric Harris) and I think he does present as less amicable than Dyl. It’s his own fault and that’s that, hahaha. 😉

Homicidal or suicidal? A closer look..

Upon my fragmental re-read of Tim Krabbé’s “We Are But We Aren’t Psycho”, I stumbled upon a rather interesting tidbit. It had something to do with Dylan’s reasoning behind the massacre and how the core of that is explained time and time again as “Dylan was suicidal”. Krabbé’s exact turn of phrase reads as follows: “a boy who just cannot stop laughing while he is shooting children can no longer be understood in terms of suicide alone”.

It got me thinking.. how often do we describe Columbine and the boys in general as “Dylan was suicidal, Eric was homicidal”? And why do we do that? I find myself agreeing with Krabbé when he essentially argues that there is a complexity to Dylan’s part in the massacre that’s not strictly about suicide. Someone can kill themselves at any second without there being a massive repercussion for the life and death of others. But Dylan didn’t just kill himself: he killed others before he killed himself. What, then, was so important about the act of murder that it was the lead-up to the penultimate goal of suicide?

Some might say that he went along with the homicide for Eric’s sake. I disagree. I think that Dylan was too much “his own person”, too much of an individual, to be dragged into someone else’s idea if he himself didn’t particularly feel like doing it. Though Dylan was a people-pleaser (to an extent), the evidence also indicates that he rallied against Eric if Eric went too far and that he marched to the beat of his own drum more than he particularly marched to Eric’s. I believe he simply gives off the impression that he went along with Eric, because some things are just not worth picking a fight about. You could probably pick a fight with Eric over something as stupid as the colour of the sky. It’s too much effort to keep rebutting Eric over every little thing, right? But what about the big things, like life-and-death scenarios? I would think that Dylan would’ve gone against Eric over the murder plans if Dylan somehow disagreed or didn’t really want to do that. So, there’s a component that isn’t explained: what led the arguably suicidal individual to murder?

Then there also came the thought.. what about Eric? If I’m really going to question things about Dylan in terms of homicidal/suicidal, it would stand to reason to extend the same courtesy of thought to Eric. Eric’s always been explained away as “homicidal”. He’s seen by many as easier to pinpoint than Dylan. I would disagree on that too – few people have managed to puzzle me so utterly as Eric Harris managed to do. Some have called his suicide “an afterthought” and something that he only went through with so he wouldn’t be caught alive. But Eric, when seen as purely homicidal in nature.. that version of Eric would’ve spat “fuck that, I ain’t going out without a fight” sooner than he would’ve done what he ended up doing. There’s a suicidal component to Eric, which he himself briefly noted in his diversion papers. So what’s going on there?

We have to look at the differences between outward self-expressed motivation and intrinsic subconscious motivation if we’re going to have any hope of solving the conundrum here. I’ve found that the boys mirror each other perfectly here: Dylan’s outward motivation is Eric’s intrinsic one, and vice versa. Here’s how that works.

Outward self-expressed motivation

This is the part of the motivation for the massacre that is literally expressed toward the outside world by the boys as individuals. This is essentially the standard catch-all about Columbine, where Eric is explained as homicidal and Dylan is explained as suicidal. It’s not a wrong view – it is what they themselves expressed more and focused on more. It is something that is visible. It’s something that goes outward into the world: this is what you’ve done to me, this is how I feel, this is why I do what I do. More importantly, it is the part of their motivation that they were always aware of having.

Dylan’s journal reads as suicidal from cover to cover. He gives voice to wanting to die more than once. He doesn’t quite detail how, nor are there many indications as to which particular circumstances lead to Dylan being so caught up in his misery that he “wants out”. He gives reasons aplenty, of which a very important one is that he feels himself separate from humanity and undeserving of things. The journal sometimes gives the impression that he didn’t really know how to leave the world and still be able to give permanent voice to his suffering. If one couples that rampant suicidal ideation with the jubilant shout of “today is the day I die!” that was heard in the hallways of Columbine on 4/20, it becomes very easy to attribute that particular quote to Dylan. The day has finally come on which he is to leave this life, and he is elated: there are no more takebacks; this is it!

Eric’s journal, in contrast, reads as homicidal more often than not. Starting with “I hate the fucking world” and stranding somewhere in the middle of rant number 200 on the state of the world, it’s not hard to see that Eric was one pissed-off individual. I think it may have gotten to the point where people breathing the wrong way annoyed the hell out of him: if you somehow didn’t fit into Eric’s worldview, you might as well do him a favour and die so he wouldn’t have to put up with you anymore.That’s how it reads when you do the first couple of global reads, anyway: a rampant “everybody’s gotta die and I’m gonna be the one to take you out” that is part-bravado and part-reality. It’s homicidal ideation at its finest running alongside what Eric described as ‘racing thoughts’. The focus on them is relentless, almost like being stuck in a hamsterwheel that doesn’t have an exit.

Intrinsic subconscious motivation

This is the tricky part of the motivation for the massacre, because it’s not as easily visible as the other part is. It is something that is only expressed to the outside world sparingly, if at all, and it ends up being neglected in most of the standard material out there on the case. Yet, it’s somehow the more important to me precisely because it stays so hidden. Did the boys themselves really know the full range of it? It’s debatable. There are indications that they were aware of a small part of it, but a lot of it is subconscious. It’s something that only really goes on inside of them until those final minutes of their lives when it finally, finally comes out to play. For Dylan, it’s a surprisingly helpful companion. For Eric, it’s the debilitating factor.

Dylan doesn’t express rage or homicidal thought quite so easily. He only voices it sparingly in his journal and on the basement tapes, though it is said that he is particularly unremorseful on the latter. You can see him goofing up in the rants for Hitmen for Hire, too: Eric is the “one take wonder”, while Dylan needs a little time to really get into it. It is almost as if there is this ‘seal’ on his anger, which cannot be repaired once it finally breaks. He is angry with the world, too. He creates a shirt called “wrath” for the day of the massacre – how powerful is that as an expression of the intrinsic motivation? He wants to murder people. To hurt them the way they have hurt him. And it’s a general “them”, too, as mankind has thoroughly disappointed Dylan. Why should they get to live when his own existence has been this miserable? That internal motivation is answered on the day of the massacre. He finds himself strangely happy in the middle of it: not just because he is about to die, but also because he’s leaving the world with that message.

Eric doesn’t express many emotions other than the unadulterated ragefests. He vaguely notes disappointment, hurt, sadness even, and a tiny bit of joy.. but they’re covered by the fluffy blanket of anger throughout. Just a blink and they’re gone, swept up by the tidal wave of “I want to hurt you”. But then, well, then “everything” goes wrong on 4/20. The always punctual Eric is running late. More importantly, by the time he goes into the school, he is aware that the bombs he worked his ass off on have probably failed. He breaks his nose from the gun recoil. The plan’s a fuck-up. And somehow, somewhere, this begins to translate for him as “I am the fuck-up”. He grows quiet. Out comes the hurt he’s previously stored away inside all his anger. The anger fizzles, then dies. And all the things he didn’t want to say, couldn’t give a voice to.. they consume him. He wants to get out. To stop his mind, his heart, his soul from being here: he wants to die.

Homicidal/suicidal?

I think the question here is.. why not both? At first glance, Dylan is suicidal and Eric is homicidal. That’s how we know them best. That’s the face value of it. The part that’s easy to explain. At second glance, Eric is suicidal and Dylan is homicidal. That’s when you stop and go “wait, what?”. That’s not how you know them – not at first, anyway. But it’s there in the things that are barely said, in the way they both suppressed aspects of their emotions, and it’s important. It matters when you really want to get to know them. It means something big in the way they were as people. And, if you look at it just right, you might even get to see why that part stays hidden.

@lovernotfighter1982, you’d asked @everlasting-contrast and myself in your post last night where the Hitmen For Hire segments outside were filmed. If you’re looking for information on the videos, reviewing the statements of Eric Veik (JC-001-010908 to JC-001-010935) is probably going to be your best bet: Veik was involved in a lot of them and detailed the locations and reasons why they were filmed. I lifted the screencap above from his statement on Hitmen For Hire, which shows that it was filmed behind the Cooper 7 theatre near Blackjack Pizza. The theatre was located at 6637 W. Ottawa Avenue in Littleton – Blackjack was located at 6657 W. Ottawa Avenue, so that’s pretty close by. You can still get an impression of the location on Google, but I believe that the theatre doesn’t exist there anymore either..