Some thoughts on “columbiner” as a term.

mossberg42099:

Ok, so Iā€™ve amassed a couple hundred followers so, I think I can ask and get at least a couple opinions here..

Iā€™ve been overly interested in columbine since back in the day, when you could still access mirrors of Ericā€™s website.. little did I know the re were thousands of kids feeling the same way I did. ā€œIā€™m just like these kids, man there are days I would love to scare my entire school, and make them all my bitches, but these dudes actually did it!ā€
It was a respectful admiration, and yet mournful, because no innocent kid deserves to have their life taken like that. ā€œCollateral damageā€ is not an appropriate term here, and no one else was armed. Though I do hold solace for the victims, and I wish no disrespect to them, this event was necessary. Eric and Dylan knew that too.

Now, this community has split into different types of ā€œfandomā€ and ā€œobsessionā€. Weā€™re quoted in the media as ā€œradicalā€ and ā€œdisturbingā€. Neither of these really bother me all that much, but itā€™s simply not true, plenty of us have intelligent takes on the massacre, and donā€™t appreciate being shoved in a box with Eric and Dylan fan fiction.

Opinions? Hate? Love? Letā€™s hear it.

Mmhh, I’m somewhere in the middle of using ‘Columbiner’ as a term for myself (and others). I think that there is certainly some truth to your statement that the community has split into different types of vocalisations when it comes to the case and the boys. I’ve always seen that ‘split’ as being something that depends on age, environment, mindset, the whole nine yards.. and your perception of the case and the boys will undoubtedly change as you grow and evolve and learn more.

I know that I would have blogged very differently about Columbine and the boys if this community had existed back when I was 15, a high school drop-out, depressed as all hell, and one step away from becoming the next Eric/Dylan. Those dudes would’ve been my heroes and inspirations back in the day, and I’m not ashamed to admit that truth out loud. But time and growth does a lot to change that. I’m 26 now. I’ve got a stable job and my depressions are now reduced to manageable winter relapses. I’m no longer the next Eric or Dylan. And yet I write about them and the tragedy they caused because I feel that their stories matter and I believe we can use those stories to make a real lasting change in the world. I have been researching this case for three years and don’t see myself stopping with this in the foreseeable future. Comprehending the past will form the future, so to speak. In a sense, the boys are still as inspirational to me as ever.. but they have toppled from their heroic pedestal and that makes what I write today different from what I would’ve written years ago.

Maybe, over time, a similar change will take place in other bloggers. A lot of the fanfics, cutesy edits, funny videos, and random squee about the boys are brief moments of levity to me, though, and I hope to see those things appear every so often to offset the depth of the rabbithole I find myself in research-wise. I’m not above random moments of snark and that audio where the dudes sound like Chip and Dale is so hilarious to me that it’s actually my ringtone. It’s a very.. mmhh.. irreverent way of speaking about two mass murderers that can sometimes feel like a callous approach to the tragedy they created, though.

Lately, I’ve come to feel that we’re all just ‘Columbiners’. Different ways of expression, sure, and if I could smack some sense into some of you it’d not be a day too soon.. but we are all invested in the same thing for a multitude of reasons and many of us feel such a strong pull to it that it’s almost like we’re being “called” to this for whatever purpose that has yet to reveal itself. I’ve gone to bat on behalf of the ‘fangirling’ contingent of the community before – not because I feel akin to them, but because many of them are young and everybody deserves a right to express how they feel. My ‘about’-page shares how I feel about this community: I love the entire fucking lot of you. Recent events in the community have finally made me say “yeah I’m a Columbiner so what” whereas before I would’ve likely erred on the side of caution with “eh I’m interested in the case but I’m not synonymous with some other bloggers”. I think that the time for dividing lines between the ‘types’ of Columbine blogs is pretty much over. We already experience so much divide and misunderstanding in life – why add more to it within a community that is already batshit weird regardless of how you look at it? We’re all in the same damn Reb&Vodka boat at the end of the day.

Tiny appreciation round for those friends of mine who’re not in the trenches with me on Columbine but have met my research and my remarks on the boys with a quiet amusement and encouragement. Varying from an “of course you’re into this, I can see why it would matter a lot to you” to an outright “they [Eric and Dylan] were SUPER important and your soul’s work is connected to that”.. I can honestly say that I have got some of the most wonderful people in the world surrounding me. It’s unlikely they’ll see this post of mine, but I’m just going to take a moment to appreciate the acceptance and unconditional affection all the same.Ā 

Hats off to you, ladies. =)

The Columbine Effect: Why Hollywood Is Keeping the Story Alive

This is the other article that was hiding out in the link I posted yesterday. In case you haven’t seen it or have only seen faulty reblogs of it, it’s a very good read into how the community is moving forward and how Columbine continues to affect everything years after it happened. It also speaks of Cullen’s tripe extensively, but features such a magnificent take-down of his book that you all should read it anyway.

Also, did you know Dave Cullen was ‘diagnosed’ with “secondary PTSD” twice during his ‘research’? It seems that he experienced some of the emotional impact that writing about this can have, but then you have to wonder how a man who’s seemingly so invested in these stories can get it all so damn wrong. Writing about Columbine, especially about the boys, is very emotionally harrowing – it is why my original writing pieces about them sometimes take forever to make it online at all. The research can take you down the rabbithole, chew you up, and spit you back out in a way that means you’ll never be the same. Given how much propaganda Dave spews in his book, it is a miracle he even came close to experiencing that raw set of emotions about anything related to this at all.

The Columbine Effect: Why Hollywood Is Keeping the Story Alive

PEOPLE CALM YOUR TITS OKAY

It seems that some blogs had trouble reblogging my comment/addition to the last link I posted, which has now led some people to believe that this thing about Dave’s book becoming a movie is actual brand new information. But it’s not! I just pulled this link to show you all that we’re not alone in our anti-Cullen sentiments and that even survivors and people within the direct Columbine community agree with us that his narrative is a biased piece of trash.

Lifetime movie on ‘Columbine’ massacre sparks outrage (old article!)

A little reminder that we are not alone in our disgust with Dave Cullen. Remember when they honestly wanted to make a movie out of this and everybody came out of the woodwork calling it a bad idea?

“This is a terrible idea for a movie,” writes Anne Marie Hochhalter on the petition. “I was injured at Columbine, and Dave Cullen’s book is inaccurate and sensationalized. Please don’t let this movie be made; it brings back all
the pain I experienced and is insensitive to all of us in the Columbine
community."Ā 

Make sure to also read Alan Prendergast’s article, which this article links to, because it features this gemstone:

Yet it’s precisely the assertion of the project’s authenticity that most troubles its opponents. In the Columbine community, Cullen’s book is
widely regarded not as the definitive account of the massacre and its
aftermath, but one version of it, with its own biases and questionable
interpretations.
The second chapter portrays Harris as a chick magnet,
an assertion based largely on the account of one reputed girlfriend whom
police investigators concluded wasn’t credible; several people who knew
the killers well believe both Harris and Klebold died as virgins.
("Right now I’m trying to get fucked and trying to finish off these time
bombs,” Harris wrote two weeks before the attack.) It’s one thread in a
larger dispute some readers have with Cullen’s work ā€” which, in their
view, downplays the role of bullying and other factors in its efforts to
portray Harris as a well-integrated psychopath and Klebold as his
depressed, rejected follower.

[..]

A few of Cullen’s most vocal critics say they don’t trust his book because he relies so heavily on sources among law enforcement and school
officials, including Jefferson County lead investigator Kate Battan,
FBI agent Dwayne Fuselier, and principal Frank DeAngelis ā€” people that
Columbine families accused of misleading them or providing self-serving
accounts.Ā 

Lifetime movie on ‘Columbine’ massacre sparks outrage (old article!)

marlboro-redsox:

Am I the only one who says, ā€œYou were a month away from graduationā€ about Columbine. One month. One damn month away from being set free. So much more after high school. The world may not be an amazing place but thereā€™s sure as hell way more choices. They could have made itā€¦.

ericharrisblog:

godlikenature-deactivated201402:

Columbine Victimsā†’Dave Sanders

For 25 years, William Dave Sanders had worked as a computer and business teacher at Columbine High School, as well as being coach of the female softball and basketball teams.

After hearing the gunshots outside of the school, Sanders made his way to the cafeteria andĀ signalledĀ the alarm. He and a couple other of the schoolā€™s janitors proceeded by directing as many students as possible away from the shooters.

While continuing his efforts to keep the students safe on the upstairs hall, Sanders was shot from behind by Eric Harris.

It was then in the science lab that Sanders bled to his fate. Deidra Kucera, a student at Columbine, placed a sign in the classroom window that read: ā€œ1 BLEEDING TO DEATH.ā€

Despite, the attempts to save him by fellow students, Dave Sanders passed away three hours later. His lasts words reportedly being: ā€œTell my family I love them.ā€

It pisses me off that this man should be alive right now, if it wasnā€™t the stupidity of the police. Eric shot him, yes, but the police finished the job, by letting bleed to death.

rebeldomakr:

wrath-naturalselection:

Read this. Finally, an article thatā€™s shows who Columbiners really are.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1270154-plan-for-mass-killings-horrifies-columbine-researcher

“Most of the subjects of Daggettā€™s study have read the 11,000-page police report into the Columbine shooting, she said. They are very well educated about the incident.ā€

YOU HEAR THAT, DAVE CULLEN!??

The Columbiners: Fascination with Violence becomes Reality

This article is actually a surprisingly decent read. None of our blogs are cited here as far as I can tell, so that’s already a plus. They raise some pretty great points on the underlying behavioural patterns in mass shooters and dive a little more into the reasons why so many of us are fascinated by an event such as Columbine. Furthermore, they have a good handle on what can actually help prevent these events in future.

The Columbiners: Fascination with ViolenceĀ  becomes Reality

As some of you may have noticed, there’s been a bit of a layout change to the blog again and the sidebar info has been updated. I also took the time to rework the vital posts-list to include some of the works I’m planning to write, so that’s worth checking out when you want to know what I’ll be yakking on about in the time to come. =)

Also contemplating indexing all the questions you guys have ever sent me, so you’ll be able to locate specific answers of mine about a particular subject in future. Is this something you’re interested in seeing?

richard–trenton-chase:

if you openly support the mass murder of innocent people, especially for a reason as stupid as it exciting you or because you think people deserve it because youā€™re an angsty fuck, iā€™m just going to assume you lack any intelligence and itā€™s a wonder you can even use a computer in the first place.

Dave Cullen, honey, seeing as it’s just been confirmed that you’re familiar with our lovely crowd here on Tumblr.. I would love to redirect your attention to this for a second. (Don’t worry, it won’t hurt a bit unless you actually like your book! And, yes, I know the review’s still incomplete but that’s because I can only take so much of your inaccuracy before I throw a gigantic ragefest..)

“Columbine”: A Chapter-By-Chapter Read of Everything Sucky:

1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26-30, 31-35.

And, look, I even drew something for you!!

Post-Mortem Problems: Fear and Columbine

thedragonrampant:

This is the first of the original writing pieces scheduled for release on my blog this year. I finished this one about a week ago, but felt that my own birthday would be a more appropriate release date for it. (Nobody said I canā€™t write myself birthday presents, so there we go. *laughs*) I hope itā€™ll be worth the read!

Post-Mortem Problems: Fear and Columbine

Today, I would like to talk about a specific problem that tends to reoccur in most of the official writings and debates about Columbine: post-mortem diagnosis. I think that most of us have mentioned it on our blogs before as being something that is not only annoying, but should never have occurred in the first place. It is most prevalent in the documentation available on Eric, as professionals involved in the case have pretty much set him a ā€˜psychopathā€™ baseline from which he supposedly functioned, but Dylanā€™s side also suffers extensively from the tendency to want to pinpoint what exactly was ā€˜wrongā€™ in his mind. One of the problems I see in this is not the fact that theyā€™re thinking about possible mental disorders the boys may have suffered from, as I do believe that both of the boys had issues in this department that could very well have led to a diagnosis, but rather the problem comes with the fact that said diagnoses were issued post-mortem by professionals working the case or writing about the case.

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paperviolence:

plxsticxhearts:

Iā€™m a bit weary about talking to anyone in this community. Based on a few factors

Youā€™re right to be weary. A lot of them are cool people, but then there are a few freaky ones. Last year I was friends with most of the people in this tag and there were points with a couple of them who would say things that often made me wonder if I should be warning the police about possible massacres occurring in the close future.

Count me as another one saying you’re right to be weary in some instances, but that most of us are pretty damn sweet. (As in every community, really? I don’t know a single one where I haven’t felt weariness over talking with somebody at some point.) I know most people in this tag by now and the ones I’ve spoken to over the years have always been warm, kind, and intelligent. I’ve formed some lasting friendships around here. There have been (and there still are) moments of concern, most certainly, where you can see someone not doing so well and feeling really badly about themselves and the world.. those are the moments where I personally do try to reach out and let them know “hey, you’re not alone” and I know many others around here do the same. The community tends to be good like that, too. There’s a lot of support going on around here, though it may not always be as obvious as the penchant for drama is. I’ve been running with this crowd for almost three years now. People come, people go, people grow away from us or elect to leave in order to focus on things like their mental health and whatever else, but I’ve always found that they are generally lovelier than they may seem at first glance.

noeasyanswers:

Model and diagram of the library

On the second picture the following can be seen:

  • Daniel Mauser at table 9
  • Corey Depooter at table 14
  • Matt Ketcher and Isaiah Shoels at table 16
  • Cassie Bernall at table 19
  • Dylan Kleboldā€™s jacket next to table 18
  • Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris to the right of table 15